Getcha Some Productions Podcast Episode 30
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A podcast covering all things related to music production: from the first note to the last fan and everything in between. Our mission is to create music and to inspire others to do the same.
Not your typical podcast, each episode is a live business meeting. We are in the process of building a media empire (a music production company) and listeners/viewers come along for the ride. This is a chronicle and archive of our progress.
This podcast is always candid and unrehearsed.
In this episode we discuss:
Can you hear me? Is anyone out there? Am I all alone?
Dan’s personal musical update involves his new musical project. It’s a band but they are working on playing electronica as he describes it. It’s a little bit out of his comfort zone.
He’s been listening to a bunch of new music to get into the vibe of this new project. He likes some of it and he doesn’t like some of it. One particular group inspired him to revisit some old music we used to make together in a band called Jollyship the Whiz-Bang. The bass player of this group was taking an approach of using a pick and playing in more of a rock ‘n’ roll or new wave style. The band that Dan has been listening to to get new ideas is called The New Deal.
The band that Dan is in (what is the name?) is really going for a very traditional techno (four on the floor) type of sound. When he initially mentioned it I thought maybe he was going in a more Squarepusher or Amon Tobin sort of direction. But no, they’re definitely firmly in a techno vibe. I was thinking of jungle, acid jazz or chill Hop.
We need to get into the meat of the episode right now.
Dan brought up the issue that there is a saying that money and blood don’t mix or you shouldn’t start a business with your best friend – things like that. Dan and I have been friends for a really long time so we’re more like family at this point then anything so it would be very bad if starting this business impaired our friendship in some way. So, Dan raised this as a possible issue and something he was concerned with.
Dan was very wise in bringing this up as an issue. It doesn’t even matter if we are friends or not in some respects. This is an aspect of having a relationship that needs to be addressed from the beginning. In fact, this is something that all people should be doing in all relationships from the very beginning.
Here are some of the ideas that I had:
- We have to make a commitment to always talk about our relationship with respect to this business.
- We have to have a commitment to honesty and open lines of communication. And what comes along with that is openly communicating what our expectations are of each other.
- It’s so important will have to say it again, we really need to know and communicate out loud what is expected of each other.
Dan’s main concern was that since I am super invested in this project and Dan is less so, there would be growing resentments about who’s doing more in the project which would damage our friendship.
I suggest to Dan that I actually have the answer to this problem. The answer to the problem is twofold:
- We need to be very clear about what is expected of each other in the project. Clear and very specific and precise.
- We need to be very explicit about what percentage of the business we each own.
Specifically what is Dan’s commitment?
- First thing is just to keep showing up and doing the podcast. That’s it.
- Dream about what this project could eventually be. Don’t put any limits on it.
Philosophically, this makes sense. If we have a baseline commitment to keep doing the podcast every week no matter what. No matter how bad it is. We will ultimately and eventually get better and better. So the first part of our commitment is just to keep doing the thing. But the second part of the commitment is to visualize all the great things that it could be eventually. Through the iterative process of always performing the task on the one hand and always dreaming of the greatness it could be on the other hand, eventually, it will close in on those dreams. Eventually the reality will approach the dream and possibly meet. Likely, the two will meet somewhere in the middle. The process will get closer and closer to the dream every time.
Dan‘s feedback:
First thing is that he really loves doing the podcast. At first he didn’t really know what he was getting into but seems like now he’s understands what’s going on and is gettling into the vibe of it.
Dan confesses that long term dreams and vision is not his strong point. Interestingly, he says that when I mentioned his long-term dream and or vision the first thing he thought about was making the podcast better. But admits that he understands that that’s not really what I’m talking about.
I guess that’s kind of true. The point is to have a commitment to an ongoing process that is very much grounded in reality but also some very (dream like, seemingly out of reach) lofty goals that are out there in the distance. They could even seem impossible. But, over time, as long as those dreams are simmering in the backs of our minds, the process will eventually bring us closer to them.
Dan was talking a bit about his strengths and weaknesses and it reminded me that I needed to clarify something. In the past I had been referring to Dan and I as COO and CEO respectively. But as Dan has pointed out, there are certain aspects of Dan’s strengths that don’t really lend themselves to the COO role because COO is an organizational type of role. So, even though it’s all just hypothetical at this point however it’s important for us to set our intentions and it’s important for me not to refer to Dan as the COO because that’s not an appropriate role for him ultimately. So, for now, I’ll just refer to us as co-CEOs. Where are the guys who do the higher level thinking and dreaming and we set the tone for the whole organization.
We need to pretend like everything’s possible. For as long as possible.
Dan brings it back to the first point of making sure that we’re always bringing it back to our friendship. Making sure that we’re always communicating about what’s happening in whether we’re OK with what’s happening and whether we’re OK with each other.
Dan makes it interesting point because he says that when he first got brought on to the podcast he thought that it was really just a vehicle to promote Getcha Some Guitar. But now he’s realizing that it’s much more than that and he was thinking that it would be much more fun and a good project to do some thing that’s more explicitly about entertainment. Which I completely agree with. He mentioned The idea of doing some podcasts or videos that are purely about entertainment. Like reaction videos and things like that. I think that’s a great idea.
Of course, I talk about the idea that if we do reaction videos to existing media, we may run afoul of some copyright issues. Which is something that I’ve been concerned about a lot lately. So I offer a counterpoint of perhaps doing reviews are talking about music related news articles that are current.
Dan suggests doing a podcast of what he refers to as alternate reality podcast ideas. I think that’s a really good idea.
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